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This is not a medical report. Its information is presented by non medical personnel. Any drug program should be discussed with your physician or endocronologist!

 Arimidex general info

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Arimidex is not an estroten blocker but an aromatase
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 Quick reference on a good Arimidex dosage, + arimidex is
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 Reference with good overview and commentary
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 Posts against using Arimidex
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 Bryan's analysis: caution against using arimidex because
of beneficial role of estrogen in mpb:
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 Why Arimidex works
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 Liquidex vs Arimidex
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 Alternative to Arimidex - Clomid: Follow this thread
http://www.hairsite4.com/dcforum/DCForumID5/1212.html

 Other info
Excerpts from Mesomorphosis.com

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/pharmacology/
anti-aromatases-versus-estrogen-antagonists.htm

What does "anti-estrogen" mean? How are
anti-estrogens like Cytadren, Clomid, and Nolvadex different
from each other? Is Proviron an anabolic steroid, or not?

Anti-estrogens are drugs which act to reduce estrogenic
activity in the body. This can be done either by reducing the
amount of estrogen, or by reducing the activity of whatever
estrogen is present.

Competitive aromatase inhibitors, such as Cytadren, Arimidex,
and probably Proviron, bind to the same binding site on the
aromatase enzyme that testosterone does. By doing this, they
allow less testosterone to bind to aromatase. So, less
testosterone is converted to estradiol (estrogen).

Here’s an important thing: the effectiveness of competitive
inhibitors decreases as the amount of the normal substrate
increases. Suppose that you had equal amounts of inhibitor
and normal substrate in the blood, and they bound to the
enzyme equally well. Then the inhibitor would at any moment
be taking up half the sites that the normal substrate
otherwise would, so it would reduce conversion rate by 50%.
But if the amount of substrate is increased 10 times while
the amount of inhibitor remains the same, then the inhibitor
would be outcompeted by the more numerous substrate
molecules. It would therefore be rather ineffective.

For example, with more testosterone molecules available, and
similar binding strengths, the enzyme will mostly bind
testosterone. It will then mostly be working to produce
estrogen. To obtain the 50% reduction we had before, then the
amount of inhibitor would also have to be increased 10 times.

To be really effective, the inhibitor must either be present
in higher concentration than the normal substrate, or must
bind more tightly.

With Cytadren or Proviron, it takes quite a lot of inhibitor
to outcompete high testosterone levels. With Arimidex, rather
little, even 1 mg/day, can be sufficient because it binds so
strongly.

The other general approach is estrogen receptor antagonism.
If a molecule binds strongly to a hormone receptor, but does
not activate that receptor and makes it unresponsive to the
normal hormone, then it is a receptor antagonist. Clomid
(clomiphene) and Nolvadex (tamoxifen) follow this approach.
These drugs are very similar structurally. They are both what
are called triphenylethylenes, and are not steroids. The
differences are relatively minor, but seem to affect an
important characteristic of these compounds: drug metabolism.

Both tamoxifen and clomiphene are metabolized to other
related compounds which can be estrogenic or anti-estrogenic.
Both act as estrogens in bone tissue, perhaps after
metabolism, which is a very useful property for female
patients, for whom these drugs are usually intended.
(Otherwise, an anti-estrogen could lead to osteoporosis.)
Tamoxifen seems particularly prone to acting as an estrogen
in the liver, which may account for reduced IGF-1 levels seen
when this drug is taken.

Users generally seem to agree that when tamoxifen is used,
gains are a little less than what otherwise would be
expected. (Let’s not take this too far though: many people
have made great gains while using tamoxifen as an
anti-estrogen. And it’s always hard to say what
"would" have been the case if a drug had not been
included.) I’ve heard nothing but good about clomiphene,
though.

Proviron, an anabolic steroid, is particularly interesting. I
suspect that it not only acts as an antiaromatase but in an
unknown DHT-like anti-estrogenic manner. This might involve
estrogen receptor downregulation for example. In any case,
aromatase inhibition and/or Clomid don’t seem to give the
same effect on appearance and muscle hardness as when
Proviron is included.

How much of these agents is needed for effective estrogen
suppression?

Again, it depends on the dose of anabolic/androgenic steroids
(AAS) and it depends what type of AAS is being used.

With Primobolan or trenbolone there is no need for these
drugs.

With nandrolone, an aromatase inhibitor will be of no use,
because aromatase is not used in the aromatization of
nandrolone. A rather small amount of estrogen receptor
antagonist can be useful. 12.5 to 25 mg Clomid would be
plenty for 400 mg/week Deca.

With testosterone, stacking of an aromatase inhibitor and an
estrogen receptor antagonist will give the best results.
Cytadren use should not exceed 250 mg/day in my opinion. This
alone would not be sufficient for say 1 g/week or more of
testosterone. With such a dose, ideally one would add in 50
mg/day Clomid. Proviron at 100 mg/day could substitute for
the Cytadren. Or Cytadren and Proviron can be used in
combination, 125/50 or higher, together with 50 mg/day
Clomid.

For lower doses of testosterone, proportionally less
antiestrogens can be used.

Arimidex is very effective but extremely expensive. 1 mg/day
of this is at least as effective as 250 mg/day Cytadren. If a
milligram per day cannot be afforded, use of half a milligram
would allow Cytadren use to be cut in half, which may be
desirable.

How does Clomid "stimulate" testosterone production
at the end of the cycle?

It really doesn’t. Rather, by acting as an estrogen receptor
antagonist, it reduces the inhibition that results from
elevated estradiol levels. This helps return LH to normal
levels, which helps testosterone to return to normal levels
(if the testicles have not atrophied).

How does hCG help?

Acts as an LH receptor agonist, thus substituing for LH. It
does nothing to help the hypothalamus and pituitary. Thus, it
can be effective during the cycle to help avoid testicular
atrophy, but is not best used in the taper when one is
attempting to restore LH production. Increases in natural
testosterone, stimulated by the hCG, will act to inhibit LH
production. Thus, you can see where hCG use is
counterproductive in the taper itself.

Can Clomid, taken throughout a cycle, completely eliminate
inhibition?

I do not believe so. There is also androgenic inhibition
mediated by the androgen receptor, which has nothing to do
with the estrogen receptor. Androgenic inhibition is
unavoidable and cannot be helped by estrogen receptor
antagonists. However, use of Clomid throughout a cycle can
definitely reduce the degree of the inhibition and allow a
speedier recovery at the end of the cycle.

Is it safe to take Clomid for so many weeks? I heard it
should only be taken for 2 weeks.

The two week idea comes from the fact that medically its main
use is to help women with fertility problems. Because of the
menstrual cycle, there are only certain times of the month
when there is any chance of ovulation. It is pointless, then,
for these women to take the drug for more than two weeks at a
time. Some have misconstrued this to apply to males.

Men have taken the drug in clinical studies for a year
continuously. It is a rather safe drug.

Why do you say not to use more than 250 mg/day of Cytadren?

Cytadren has two main therapeutic activities. At high doses,
such as a gram per day, it is a very effective inhibitor of
the enzyme desmolase, which is required for all steroid
production, and is rate limiting for the production of
cortisol. So the drug is very useful for treating patients
with Cushing’s Syndrome, who produce abnormally high levels
of cortisol.

It is also an inhibitor of aromatase, and it is a better
aromatase inhibitor than a desmolase inhibitor. About 250
mg/day is sufficient for fairly good inhibition of aromatase,
resulting in only fairly low levels of desmolase inhibition.

As dosage increases, aromatase inhibition does not improve
much, but desmolase inhibition increases greatly.

Even at 250 mg day, there is still significant desmolase
inhibition. Other side effects, such as lethargy, may bother
some individuals even at this dose.

Why is desmolase inhibition bad? I have read that cortisol is
the enemy of our muscles, and we want to reduce it.

Those articles are written by people trying to sell you
alleged cortisol-reducing supplements.

While abnormally high levels of cortisol are indeed muscle
wasting, abnormally low levels of cortisol do not result in
extra muscle growth, and cause joint problems.

You’ve talked about tapering off Cytadren. Why?

There is a feedback mechanism for production of cortisol. Low
levels of cortisol enhance release of corticotropin releasing
hormone from the hypothalamus, and ACTH from the pituitary.
Both will result in higher production of cortisol.

So moderate inhibition of desmolase will temporarily reduce
cortisol, but soon it will be back to normal as this feedback
mechanism compensates.

If you then suddenly discontinue the drug, then these
elevated ACTH levels will result in abnormally high cortisol
for a time, until the body adjusts again. This can be avoided
simply by tapering down over about a week.

Should Cytadren be taken all at once, or in divided doses?

Because the half life is only 6 or 8 hours, if the drug is
taken only once, then through part of the day there will be
little drug in the system, and little anti-aromatase
activity.

I think the best approach is to use half the dose on arising
(or an hour or two afterwards) to get blood levels from a
somewhat low level up to the desired maintenance level. This
would then be followed by quarters of the dose at 7 or 8 hour
intervals twice after that.

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